A letter to United Church of Canada elected officials and senior staff
from Ben Robertson, Windsor, NS

To paraphrase Blaise Pascal, I apologize for writing such a long letter; I
didn’t have time to write a shorter one.

As a member of the United Church of Canada, I am writing to express my
deep concern with the process that has been initiated to review the
“suitability” of Rev. Gretta Vosper to continue as an ordained minister of
that church. I have been following Rev. Vosper with great interest for a few
years and am very supportive of the work she is doing. I will state up front
that if the church decides that she is not longer suitable for ministry, I will be
forced to question my own relationship with the United Church of Canada.

First, a bit of background. I was brought up in a rather traditional and
conservative Christian church, the First Methodist Church in my hometown
of Athens Georgia. At an early age I began to question the beliefs that had
been taught me, and by the time I finished university, I decided that these
teachings made no sense, so I stopped going to church entirely. Some
years later I became aware of some of the work that was being done on the
subject of the historic Jesus, and as a student of history, I began to read
many books on that subject. All this was done outside of the context of any
church, since I still found that the church’s message as I perceived it did
not resonate with me.

In 1993, I moved to Canada to marry a lovely Nova Scotia lady and
subsequently accompanied her occasionally to services at her church,
Windsor United. I did not particularly enjoy the services themselves, since
the incessant “God language” was a bit of a turnoff, but Rev. Bill Gibson’s
sermons were always interesting and thought-provoking, more grounded in
real life than theology. I also noted that the church had a pretty good
choir, which I eventually joined in order to indulge my love for choral singing.

Over the years, I found this church to be a welcoming community that, to
my surprise and delight, included a sizeable number of people whose
beliefs tended toward the more “liberal” end of the spectrum. I have been
able to be quite outspoken about my lack of belief in the traditional
interventionist God, and in the annual Lenten discussion groups we are
able to have a respectful dialogue in which all views are honoured. I
eventually became a member of this church by transfer, which did not
require making any affirmative statements of belief. I did so as a way to
support this inclusive community which I believe is providing a valuable
service to the members as well as to the wider community of the town. I
continued my study of scholarship on Christianity and the Bible by such
authors as John Dominic Crossan, John Shelby Spong, and Tom Harper,
among many others, with encouragement from Rev. Bill.

One of the first things that made the United Church of Canada seem
interesting to me was the time when Rev. Bill Phipps, newly appointed
moderator, mused to a reporter about his doubts concerning some of the
traditional tents of Christianity, such as the divinity of Jesus and the
historicity of the resurrection. The fact that he could make such statements
and not be removed from office was intriguing, and I thought, this is an
interesting church, indeed. Much later, when I became aware of Rev.
Vosper’s writings and her work in her own supportive congregation, I was
impressed with what seemed to be the ability of the church to accept such
wide-ranging views among its clergy, much as my local church accepts a
wide range of belief (or lack thereof) among the congregation. It seemed to
speak to a church that is mature enough to allow its members and clergy to
think critically about the big questions, a church that can allow for open
dialogue and even controversy.

Now it seems that she is to be subjected to a test of her “suitability” for
ministry, using a process that had to be created especially for her case. It is
my understanding that there have been no real complaints about her from
within the church. Her congregation lost ⅔ of its members when she
eliminated the Lord’s Prayer from the service, but they have since grown to
about 100 who support her, encompassing a broad spectrum of thought
and belief, from theistic to atheist and everything in between – probably not
all that different from Windsor United and many other UCCs across the
country. It would seem to be a growing and vibrant church at a time when
most are shrinking and many are shutting their doors (not ours, as it
happens).

This causes me deep concern. If she is found to be “unsuitable” and is
expelled, what next? What about other UCC ministers? I’m sure you are
aware that there are a great many clergy across the United Church whose
beliefs are not that different from Rev. Vosper’s but who remain quiet.
Is this test to be applied to all, or is she being singled out because of her
notoriety? Are we going to go on a witch hunt? When we have had other
controversial issues to deal with (such as gay marriage), the church
engaged in a lengthy process of deliberation, with congregations across the
country invited to have structured discussions. Now it seems that we are in
a big hurry to have what some have called a “heresy trial.” Why the
difference? And what about the many in the pews who have serious doubts and
questions about the articles of faith? Such people are there for various
reasons – perhaps habit, tradition, a need for community, or a need to feel
grounded in something.

Many are non-theistic “spiritual seekers” who choose to pursue their quest in the familiar context of the Christianity that they grew up with. If a voice like Rev. Vosper’s is to be silenced, what place is there in this United Church for us?

If Rev. Vosper is allowed to continue to minister to her flock (which it seems
they would welcome), I seriously doubt that many people are going to leave
the UCC. If she is rejected, however, is it possible that a great many will be
forced to ask whether the UCC is a suitable spiritual home for them?
Do you really want to risk that?

Instead of this headlong rush to judge one person, perhaps it would be
wise for the church to take a deep collective breath and give some serious
thought to what the church should look like in the future. I don’t mean an
administrative restructuring like we are going through now, I mean really
look at what this church wants to be and to whom it wants to minister.

There are some who say that the UCC is shrinking because it has
embraced liberalism. While it is certainly true that many people of a more
fundamentalist or evangelical bent have left over the years, it is not the
whole story. Most churches are shrinking for a variety of reasons. I contend
that a big factor is that a great many people who are in need of spiritual
nourishment find the church’s ancient formulas and outmoded language,
derived from prescientific cultures of thousands of years ago, to be
offputting. Is the UCC interested in reaching out to these people and finding
ways to engage them, or does it prefer to be a closed club for those who
are willing to affirm belief in these ancient ideas? Or to put it another way,
does the UCC want to step bravely into the 21st Century, with all the risk
that entails, or does it prefer to turn its back on progress and hope for the
best?

I would prefer to remain a part of a church that is inclusive, welcoming to
all, and big enough to allow for doubt, deep questions, and outspoken
unbelief, even among its clergy. If that is not the United Church of Canada,
then so be it.

Respectfully,
Ben Robertson
Windsor NS

7 Responses

  1. My experience of the United Church has never fit the words you use such as “fundamentalist”, “evangelical”, “ancient formulas”, not when I was a child and teenager in the 1950s and 60s and not now. The UC ministers I know are critical thinkers, liberal minded, and do not preach about a “supernatural, interventionist” God that Gretta Vosper claims they believe in. From what I have read of Gretta Vosper’s thinking (very little, because I found it reductive and based on false dichotomies and I was not inspired to read any more), I find her views shallow and concerning, and I would support a review. There is nothing original or profound about saying it’s more important how you live than what you believe. Everyone knows that. It doesn’t mean you just dismiss, in a condescending manner, the Bible, the Lord’s Prayer, and references to Jesus. What about parables? The power of metaphor? The historical accuracy of some parts of the Bible (not all)?

    1. BTW, I am not coming back to this site to read any reply to my post! I have said what I needed to say and I find this whole issue terribly upsetting. There are many other venues for promoting secular humanist and atheist beliefs. There is the Unitarian Church, which I respect. It is enough that all people with all views are welcome to participate in United Church services and social events. I welcome that. Ministers, leaders, that’s another thing. A Christian minister should have a bare minimum of Christian beliefs. How can it be otherwise?

      1. Fortunately, Mary and I have had a broad and deep conversation by email. It was a pleasure to engage with her and I am glad that we had the opportunity.

    2. To everyone who may read Mary’s posts, this is what I will send to her by email since she has made it clear she has no intention of reading any of your responses or mine. Otherwise, I would suggest you ignore her post.
      Dear Mary.
      I regret that we have such a huge gap between what you think I do and what it is that I actually do. That gap is likely wider than need be because while I have spent considerable time engaging with people who, like you, would prefer to dismiss my work in anger, you have not welcomed the space between us which, in my opinion, is always space for dialogue.

      But let me take a step into that space and you can do with it what you may.
      Your caricature of my work is terribly wrong; so much so that I think you are actually making my point for me but since you have not read my work at any depth, you cannot see that. I do not, anywhere, say that my colleagues believe in evangelical, fundamentalist concepts of god or in “ancient formulas”. My point, to spell it out more clearly, is that clergy who do not believe in such things continue to use language, symbol, and ritual that suggest they do and so exclude a growing portion of the population from engaging in community and the very important values that The United Church of Canada has lived throughout its entire existence.

      Furthermore, I do not dismiss the Bible, the Lord’s Prayer, references to Jesus or any other elements of our tradition with condescension but argue that they need to be approached with the tools of critical inquiry. That was what I was taught in theological seminary.

      Clearly, you have no idea what I believe or how I came to believe it. You are certainly welcome to continue to be upset about it but doing so is something like cowering in the dark with you hands over your eyes so long that you don’t realize the light is on. If you ever want to actually get over that upset, I’d be happy to talk with you. If it continues to work for you, then by all means, stay cowering. It’s up to you.

      Closing yourself off to dialogue explains perfectly why you are in agreement with the review being undertaken by the UCC which is proving that it, too, is frightened of what conversation might require. Stepping into the space between us is what I expect of my church. I lament that its actions have fostered further misunderstanding and roped off that area of discovery in which such understanding may have grown.

      best,

      gretta

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